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did Jesus exist and does it matter?
by zen nudist inhttp://www.impactpress.com/articles/decjan01/jesus120101.html
check this out and let me know what you think..... my personal opinion so far, with all that i have learned to date and being out of jw'dom for 13+ years.
is that jesus likely never existed.
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astrology and the bible
by zen nudist inin the book of revelations we find an interesting thing... god seated upon his throne enshrouded by the rainbow surrounded by the four living creatures... a lion, the bull, the man and the eagle... .
one need not look far to find an striking parallel... coincidence?
you judge.. the sun is surrounded by the rainbow and the four corners of the ancient sky in astrology, the constellations of leo [the lion] taurus [the bull], aquarius [the man carrying water] and scorpio which in ancient times was also symbolized by an eagle.. that these four are only the corners every 4104 years may be important to understanding when the bible was first written... .
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is there EVER a justification for killing children?
by zen nudist innumbers 31:17,18 now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him but all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
duet.
21:20-21 and they shall say unto the elders of his city, this our son [is] stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; [he is] a glutton, and a drunkard.
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things I do not like about xmas
by zen nudist in.
aside from the reasons jws give as it being a pagan holiday renamed..... i do not like the fact that parents think nothing of lying to their children about this mythical santa claus.
and the constant hollywood movies making anyone who exposes the gag as an evil monster...while giving children reasons to believe that santa claus really does exist after all...ignore your older friends who have been poisoned by the secular world.. i find it appalling to ever teach a child to simply expect people to give them things just because the calendar says a certain day.. i find the mindless devoution to christmas to be just as appalling as the brainwashing jws do against it... i see people in my office acting like german clocks... the clock strikes easter and the decorate the office, strikes holloween and they decorate again...strikes christmas and more decorations..... then the frets and worries over what to get who and how much to go into debt over it.. i knew one lady who spent over $300 on a child less than two and was very depressed about two weeks later when the novelty wore off and only very inexpensive things returned as the main attraction.
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what is the meaning of life??
by zen nudist in.
one thing which kept me trapped as a jw far longer than necessary was the fear that if i left and no longer believed, my life would be empty of meaning and futile and ultimately end in a meaningless death.
i could not find any meaning in the world apart from the view jws had imposed upon me... all other ways seemed to lead only to meaninglessness.. but once out and even without a belief in any god[s] i still found my life meaningful but it took several years before i understood my new source of meaning and now see it as the only valid source... i will explain this after i see some of your ideas as i do not wish to bias your answers in advance.
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Is the very concept of THE TRUTH the reason cults can exist?
by zen nudist inconsidering that all availible evidence points to the understanding that everything we know is our own mental inventions, symbols our own minds have made... maps of an implied territory, representations, not substance, how can we be sure of anything that arises in our minds at all?
it seems the best we can say is that there is some stability and consistancy to some of the things we experience and some of our beliefs seems useful a lot of the time... but the truth?
what can one use as a standard for the truth?
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how far would you have gone?
by zen nudist ini recall while i was just a new jw how horrified i was at the "brother" who was bringing me along.... when he told me that he was so sure about the governing body being jehovah's mouth piece, that if one day they announced--this is it, this is the end, kill any and all non-jws in your path....he would do it.
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what is the first lie in the bible and who told it?
by zen nudist ingen 2:17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
gen 3:4 and the serpent said unto the woman, ye shall not surely die: [from eating of the tree].
gen 3:5 for god doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
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is the gun responsible or the one who fires it?
by zen nudist inwho is the real murderer?.
cain who slew abel, or god who rejected cain, and according to most believers knew how cain would react and what he would do...and did nothing to stop him.. "am i my brother's keeper?
" could be translated as --- why weren't you watching over abel?